F3

[Porsche Briggs]

Welcome to final 3 Porsche you should be happy yet why are you so pissed off? Well let's see, the boards were not working (Nicole confirmed she couldn't get in also) so seeing I had to work I ask for an extension so is it my fault that Renny gets up at the crack of dawn to do it rather than asking Julie for an additional day due to board issues? Umm nope. So I get bitched at and she says I should have a cut off time after my start because I got an extension? Sorry but I don't feel I had any advantages over them at all. Had I started the night before like I intended to do my posting time would have been the same god forbid she may not win something. Funny how last week when we mentioned 24 hour comps vs regular and it didn't work in my favor she could care less.

Then she says lol gl with final 2 I got banned. Ok I don't find that funny or her complaining. It's not the first time an extension in an org has been requested. Love how she tells Nicole Julie was being unfair and not addressing her concerns when no one did anything wrong. I don't think I deserved the tude I got

Which brings me to the fact I now know she doesn't want me to have a shot at final hoh. That's the real issue. When we made a final 2 deal I have honored it and tried playing to get both of us there and she made a f2 with Nicole too. So much for loyal she had me fooled. I suspected when in the hoh where we knocked each other out she may be less than honest with me. She wanted Sarah out so I helped her so when we talked about making sure one of us won she was supposed to knock out Nicole so she couldn't knock me out anymore and convenient she never posted that round when she had the whole comp ensuring she would win not me. Sneaky hummmm. So after me voting out Sarah due to Renny being threatened by her I find her promise to me was all a lie now if I can't win final hoh I am out of final 2 when I have worked my ass off to get here and helped her ass too. I have decided if I do win it I'm taking Nicole if the deal didn't mean crap to her it's dead to me too.

[Porsche Briggs]

So, I wish I had know some things before, I feel used and was totally fooled. I found that Renny complains a lot in most games unless it favors her of course. That I am not surprised about. So I also was told about how bad she screwed over another friend and his situation seems to parallel mine. I know that this is a game but this while time I have talked to Renny I have really liked her and to find out she is not what I thought it's hard not to take it to heart

[Porsche Briggs]

I feel like I may have been a bit harsh in my last few diary room entries. I think it was mostly because my first post was right after Renny got mad about the extension and she did take out on me even though it wasn't something that I did wrong. that frustration of course had me all pissed off combined with the fact that I was aware that she lied to me and had just realized that fact when I posted originally so I do feel that I had every right to be upset at her and vent although somehow she feels that lying to me was justified somehow? um ok sure

So the truth comes out. She has promised me for quite a long time that she wanted a F2 deal with me. So I asked her if she had changed her mind and of course she starts out saying no, leaving out the important detail that she had decided she should take Nicole to final 2 and that she had lied to me.

Her great excuse and way to justify lying to me when she had said all along how loyal and trustworthy she is.... She had promised Nicole befor me but that she thought that Nicole was backing up Jun so she wanted a F2 deal with me. When she found out that Nicole was loyal to the alliance and that she wasn't with Jun she chose to honor that deal bacause she made it first. I kinda suspect that is another lie.

When Jun Nicole and I formed the original alliance Renny was considered a "side" alliance so honestly I am quite amused. So because I had talked to Nicole she admitted that she lied to me the of course tried to justify why she lied and said that she wants to still talk after this game. This whole time she portreyed herself to be a very honest and loyal player and friend and she isn't and no matter how she twists it in her head it's not ok and she in fact is NOT an honest and loyal player at all. In the future she should probably not promote that so much seeing it's bologna.

I am not callling myself a sait by any means, but when we made a real final 2 deal she had my totaly loyalty. Actually this entire game I was loyal to her. I never lied to her and at times I did things I may not normally have done to keep us both safe and not just myself. She felt Sarah was a threat and I voted to evict Sarah to make sure Renny was safe. In doing that I lost a good friend and no matter how hard I try I am afraid that I will never be able to gain that trust back that she had in me, and for what? To protect someone that lied to me.

I suppose that I have learned a valuable lesson here at least. No matter how nice and loyal and friendly someone is, don't go against what you feel is the right choice just to help the other person

I feel confident that Nicole contacting me at the same time that Renny was talking about evicting Sarah was no coincidence at all now. I am sure that they were talking and Nicole brought it up with me to try and solidify it.

I am totally regretting trying to help Renny by evicting Sarah when Sarah should have been the one that I should have made a final 2 deal with. Me Renny, and Sarah did have a F3 at one point until Renny put it in my head that Sarah was a threat and I abused Sarahs trust and let her down. From now on I plan to be a more careful judge of character and I will not abuse someone's trust a loyal player that doesn't squash others to get to the top is better than a lyar and manipulator any day. Anyone can make up a bunch of bullshit and feed it to someone else but it takes a lot bigger of a person to make it to the top while staying loyal and being totally trustworthy. There were times in this game such as with Sarah that I took the low road next time I plan to do better

[Renny Martyn]

Dec 15, 2011 20:59:48 GMT -6 Porsche Briggs said:

So, I wish I had know some things before, I feel used and was totally fooled. I found that Renny complains a lot in most games unless it favors her of course. That I am not surprised about. So I also was told about how bad she screwed over another friend and his situation seems to parallel mine. I know that this is a game but this while time I have talked to Renny I have really liked her and to find out she is not what I thought it's hard not to take it to heart

Yeah, I just found out you got this from one person in one game and it isn't true. I stuck with my F3 in that game and he is bitter because of lost with no votes at F2. And the host was great - he was fair and he listened to issues. I never once complained. Nice generalization though.

As far as your F3 comp attempt - Nicole and I both did it when we were supposed to without ever knowing you had an extension. We both disagreed and we were right. As a host, you cannot grant an extension to ONE person without telling the other players you have done this. It made a difference because after you had gone to bed we had no reason to think you hadn't already competed. Also, the board was very slow and we just assumed, since no extension had been posted, we needed to deal with it and suck it up. I had a right to object and it's not my fault the host was an asshole to me about it.

As far as the comp you are talking about that I didn't care because you lost - um you complained because results were posted before you had done it - but that was over 24 hours after the deadline. Not my fault you didn't see when the comp was posted.

[Porsche Briggs]

I haven't read what you wrote yet Renny but I think it is probably better to note what I want to say without readign that first although I feel sure that your response was right and well deserved by me

To anyone reading, when I wrote some things about Renny in my Diary room I was very angry and I regret a majority of what I said about her.

I do NOT really think that Renny complains about everything at all. I was angry at her and because of that I took every little thing I could and blew it wayyyyy up just to find reasons to bitch and that was wrong of me to do. I think it was unfair to Renny and I should have cooled off before posting. Renny is a rules stickler and I unfairly said things and put her down when I shouldn't have. Renny actually taught me a thing or 2 when it comes to the rules and how they are written and I really do thank her for that!

I said a lot of things in anger about Renny that I do not mean at all. In reality although she had 2 F2 deals it happens and I don't think that she set out to be disloyal at all. I understand she had a F2 with Nicole and that when the issues with Jun came up she was hesitant to trust Nicole and chose to make a deal with me. When Nicole proved to be loyal she was probably a bit stuck and I can certainly see why she would not come and tell me right away. The point is that she did tell me and it was before the final HOH was over and I was too hurt at the time to see the logic or to care I was just too mad.

In regard to the extension at the time I had thought that no one could get on the threads since I couldn't get into any of them and that Renny and Nicole would have had the same issues and would contact Julie about it. I did not realize that they had no clue about the extension so I understand Renny being upset that she was not informed and that it wasn't posted. Again I said things when I was angry and I am really sorry about that Renny

I think the world of Renny. She is really a great friend and I would play another org with her and trust her in a heartbeat. I was the one crossing the line with some of the things I said and how I said them and Renny doesn't deserve that at all. Renny I hope that you can accept my apology

Parker I think that I posted a thing or 2 about you also when I found out you were targeting me. In reality I think you are a huge sweetheart and I luv ya

[Renny Martyn]

Thanks Porsche. YOU are definitely the sweetheart here but you are right that I'm a rules stickler. I know this was all in the past - but it took so long for these boards to be open that I didn't see it until today. Obviously, we've talked through some things since this was posted but I still felt I needed to defend myself. I think we are on the same page as far as what fairness is, and the fact that people should stick up for what's right.